Candidates for deletion
|#2651 by mikuxdrift|
2019-01-26 at 13:45
|requesting deletion of r61832 from the topic. t11850#1|
|#2652 by chipp12|
2019-01-27 at 20:04
|Can anyone from staff take a look at #2645 please?|
Or maybe I'm being ignored intentionally?Last modified on 2019-01-27 at 20:47
|#2653 by wakaranai|
2019-01-27 at 21:32
|^that's just your speculation. artists happen to have similar pen names, even when working on the same projects, for example, Kawai Masaki and Kawai Saho. nickname similarity could be intended, as they might be related or be members of the same circle, doesn't mean they're one person.|
|#2654 by trickzzter|
2019-01-28 at 02:36
|r61864 is identical to r61863|
It looks like developer misunderstood the purpose of different entries.
|#2655 by chipp12|
2019-01-31 at 07:52
|Are you for real? I've even quoted the sources. They match completely. Well if people prefer to be this biased it's their choice I guess.|
upd. Ok here's better source than just speculation. Nanamugi Hiroi 's twitter account (now inactive) was @hiroinana and after a quick check in google I've found out this:
If you open the link it redirects you to
which is the same twit but from his new account. Better now?
Here's another twit that references artist credit to their new penname with their old twitter account address:
Here are proofs that both twitter account and website address in Nanamugi Hiroi 's page are correct:
linkLast modified on 2019-01-31 at 08:11
|#2656 by amittesukku|
2019-01-31 at 11:27
|r53433 - it was really hard to contact the translator, and when i finally managed to do so, they claimed they're not working on this project anymore (proof)|
r31404 - project had been taken down a long time ago due to a copyright strike
r42902 - still wonder why this one has ever been added; doesn't seem to have had any progress since 2015
r36951, r43424, r35964 - websites are downLast modified on 2019-01-31 at 11:36
|#2657 by trickzzter|
2019-02-01 at 10:40
|r57076 - r61639|
Not sure which one should be removed. Sekai Project's translation has been released as an update for Narrator's Steam release: linkLast modified on 2019-02-01 at 10:40
|#2658 by gimnacio|
2019-02-02 at 21:15
as described in the first link, they are sound novels. meaning this is not a VISUAL NOVEL, since its just some audio included in the package which means there is no image, and therefore should not be included in the databaseLast modified on 2019-02-02 at 21:15
|#2659 by dk382|
2019-02-02 at 21:39
|Sound novels by their most commonly understood definition do contain visuals, though, and are a subset of visual novels. Otogirisou is a "sound novel," for instance. The original Chunsoft sound novels had text over simple backgrounds and occasional CGs, and had some background music. Are the original chusingura games (or whatever) not like that? Can you be more descriptive of what they are like?Last modified on 2019-02-02 at 21:43|
|#2660 by shinnew|
2019-02-03 at 11:11
I've even quoted the sources. They match completely.
Well, my problem with only using the credits on link as a source was exactly that they don't match all that well.
Hoshi Ori Yume Mirai does not credit either name. link
Same with Planetarian HD. link
Couldn't check the actual game credits for Enkou Shoujo but EGS that has credits for other people in the same position doesn't list these names. link
Now Gin'iro Haruka does list Nanamugi Hiroi. link
If you were to only look at these credits then there is only one name in common and that's Furuikeya. But Furuikeya has other credits that don't match Nanahoshi's site and also isn't listed for Saimin Appli, which does list Nanamugi. link
I was going to look more into it and then I got distracted by certain users that edit daily and constantly make mistakes, sorry.
Now that there is some evidence linking the twitter accounts it should be fine to link the entries. But it still leaves uncertainty for the CG coloring/graphics credits, they were either done uncredited or using another of the names listed. (there are several in common)
|#2661 by delusionparadox|
2019-02-03 at 14:54
|This and this are actually the same person from what I can find, just going by different spellings (Katakana vs Kanji). I suggest the Katakana entry is kept as it's the spelling they go by most recently, and the one they're most widely known as.|
I've checked both Japanese and English databases to confirm they're the same person. Example: the Kanji entry links to AniDB which says they did Creature Design and were the Action Animation Director for Unlimited Fafnir, while this page says it's attributed to the Naoki in Katakana. The same checks out for all the other cases I've been able to find.
EDIT: I added the roles to the Katakana entry upon further confirming that they're indeed the same person. However, if anyone has any information that proves the opposite, feel free to change it back. Just note that AniDB and MAL lack most roles this person has had.Last modified on 2019-02-03 at 15:05
|#2662 by wakaranai|
2019-02-03 at 15:09
|^that's not how we merge staff entries here. first, you should have added kanji alias to Aisaka Naoki, and then edit related VN entries, making them point to that new alias. with your edits we've lost information on where creator was credited with katakana, and where with kanji.|
as to which entry should be kept and which deleted, make an entry with the most credits the main, this way you minimize amount of subsequent VN edits.
|#2663 by delusionparadox|
2019-02-03 at 15:12
|It's as simple as checking what changes I've made to find out what entries they were credited with Kanji. I'll make them point to an alias now.Last modified on 2019-02-03 at 15:15|
|#2664 by eacil|
2019-02-03 at 20:49
|Nankin is a fully animated remake of Yuuhei: r23257.3.|
|#2665 by trickzzter|
2019-02-06 at 05:25
|r62055 is a dupe of r61640|
My fault. Haven't noticed that it was already added as Japanese-only release. I already fixed that.
|#2666 by delusionparadox|
2019-02-08 at 23:14
|#2667 by eacil|
2019-02-10 at 08:03
|There is a boatload of dl bundles by MG which needs to be deleted. Just ctrl+f bundle on link. I am not listing them because whoever will delete them will obviously check if I am right so it's useless to do the job twice.|
As an example: r22184, Kira Kira with its fandisc grouped together for obvious reason (discount).
|#2668 by trickzzter|
2019-02-10 at 08:44
|^ Don't forget about r48354, it's a download bundle too.|
|#2669 by delusionparadox|
2019-02-10 at 20:11
|Not really about deletion but rather adding a release. I'm not sure where else to ask this, but Committee of Zero previously made a patch for Chaos;Child on PC, porting over the console-exclusive translation and making many improvements.|
Chaos;Child got released on Steam recently, and Committee of Zero has ported the improvements to Steam (with many new ones). Is it fine to make a new release for that patch, or should I add it on the description of the previous one?
|#2670 by beliar|
2019-02-10 at 20:24
|I'm not sure the Chaos;Child Steam patch justifies a new release, as it's mostly a bugfix that contains some improvements, like typo fixes, name order change and so on. It doesn't do anything major. so I personally would put it into a note field under the Steam release.|
|#2671 by delusionparadox|
2019-02-11 at 00:43
as it's mostly a bugfix that contains some improvements
It doesn't do anything majorWe revised the entire script, edited or retranslated thousands of lines, translated, cleaned, and edited literally hundreds of backgrounds and CGs, and did many other changes that overall improve the experience greatly when considered together, like replacing low-quality tracks with high-quality ones, improving the performance, and fixing the lipsync which is utterly broken. The hours of work are in the hundreds, and not precisely because of the technical aspect, although we spent a lot of time on that too. I'd say it's quite major.
so I personally would put it into a note field under the Steam releaseDo you mean noting the patch under the official release? Because if you meant noting it under *our* Steam release, well, the problem is that our Steam release isn't listed, only our previous patch that ported the scripts to PC and did many (but not all) of the improvements I previously listed. And that patch isn't compatible with the Steam release, it's a new one altogether.
Alternatively, we could list our Steam patch under the previous patch's entry. But in that case, I'd like to ask if it'd be possible to update the release date. Do note however, some of the contents (both the technical aspect and the translation) differ to an extent in both patches.
EDIT: Okay I've just got word that our tech team would like to make a single "patch" (installer, rather) for both releases.
How do we go about this, then? I feel like the best idea would be to have a single entry (the existent one) and update that one, to prevent cluttering. However, should we also update the release date? If not, is it fine to change the title to something that implies there's also a patch for the Steam release, as people won't know by simply looking at Chaos;Child's page?
EDIT 2: I'm seeing a couple of instances where something similar was done. With this in mind, I'll proceed to update the entry, but if this is to the dislike of the moderators, feel free to change it back, we can discuss it further. Sorry for the overly long post, the answer seems much clearer now than it did before.Last modified on 2019-02-11 at 03:16
|#2672 by lunaterra|
2019-02-11 at 05:29
|If minor patches aren't worth being listed as releases, these should be deleted: r56124 r56244 r61007 r58935 r60742|
|#2673 by beliar|
2019-02-11 at 16:22
|@delusionparadox: If you do roll both patches into a single installer, than of course it should have a single release entry that would get updated (and the date should also get updated when you roll both patches into one). On the other hand, it's currently unclear when you are gonna make the transition to a single patch, so for now maybe it's not for the best to have the Steam and JP patches rolled under a single banner, as you yourself state that "Steam patch is incompatible with the DMM release and vice versa". That might be confusing for some people.|
I propose to have the whole sentence you added today to transfer to r61617, so the people who check the Steam entry will see that there is an applicable patch to it. That, or create the separate entry, if the work you did is indeed not so minor as I thought. However such an entry would have to be deleted once you roll both patches into one.
@lunaterra: These indeed seem relatively minor patches, especially the last two. I'm definitely deleting the last two and moving them under notes, but I have to ask - do people mind if I do the same to the first three release entries?
|#2674 by rampaa|
2019-02-11 at 17:00
|#2673 Please don't delete them. I, for one, would be saddened if they were to go. It would make it harder to find those useful things if they were to be deleted.Last modified on 2019-02-11 at 17:00|
|#2675 by gregory|
2019-02-12 at 11:56
|link Is an accidental duplicate of link|
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